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Digital page images are linked to the text file. 4BLUE GRASS BLADEF EDITED T A HEATHEN IN THE INTEREST OF ADVANphyVOLUME XIII YEARo TERM3 OF THE BLADE 1 issue for one year 100 In clubs of five NEW subscribers 50 cents each 250 for five Terms100 per year In advance foreign subscription 150 Five New oubscrlbers sent one year for 250 Make all Money Orders Drafts and Express Orders payable to the Blue Grass Blade Lexington Ky When you change your address ad vise this office giving your old as well as the new address Nhen you send your subscription say whether you are a new or old tisubscriber The address slip on the paper will fhbwcapl atlonfnfBubfcrlptlon and serve as a receipt as the date changes as soon as the subscriber pays Subscriptions to this publication are not discontinued at expiration unless so ordered oy the subscriber The courts invariably hold a subscriber responsible to the publisher for the subscription price of all papers re celved until the paper Is paid for In full up to date and ordered dlscon tinned Office of publication 155 W Short St Lexington Kentucky Entered at the post office at Lexing ton Ky as Second Class Mall all communications to BLUE GRASS BLADE P 0 BOX 393 Lexington Kentucky Fayette Telephone 619 Cumberland Telephone 307 THE DAMNED STUFF GALLEY 1Abelieve that alcohol to i certain degree demoralizes those who make It those who sell It and those who drink If believe frot the time It Issues from the coiled rind poisonous worm of the distillery untiL It empties Into the hell of crime death and dishonor It demoralizes everybody that touches It do not believe that anybody can contemplate the subject without b coming prejudice against this liquid u have to do Ic to think of the deaths of the suicides of the Insan ity of the poverty of the Ignorance of the distress of the little children tug ging at the faded dresses of weeping and despairing wives asking for bread of the men of genius It has wrecked of the millions who have struggled with Imaginary serpents produced by this devilish tiring And when you think of the Jails of the almshouses of the prisons and of the scaffold upon either bank do not wonder that every thoughtful man Is prejudiced against the damned stuff called INGERSOLL foreverIIn no sense whatsoever Is this gov iernment founded upon the Christian religion WASHINGTON i The divorce between Church and Btate should be absolute GarfUld WANTEDsalesmen local and gen eral reaching the pump and well sup ply trade on recently patented well t ppplaWop of trr at merit Hilts ft Ron Co Mtdlui WU 3f DR1WRITES lqg WILSON FROM ENGLAND OF STRATFORD UPON AVON WARWICK AND KENILWORTH CASTLES AND OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST London England Sept 27 1901 Dear Friend Hughes I reached Liverpool on the evening of the 25th stopping for the night at tho Great Northern Its largest hotel I went outfor a walk beforo retiring with somo friends I made on tho voy age and saw a little of this great city by night time Tlife first thing I was struck with was tho queer names which reminded me of Robin Hood times Over saloons was the sign of Pig and Whistle The hotels bear the name of some bird or nnlmal such as The Dee Hens and Chickens Tho Bears Paw The Black Swan Tho Red Boar and numerous other such names as would bore you and make you feel ancient English Not Early Risers I arose at 530 to take the the train for Stratford upon Avon which left at 602 It was a quarter of six when I came down to the office There was not a soul up In the house except a guard I told him that I wanted to pay for my lodging He replied You should havo paid It last night If you intended leaving so early porjtersThey am In bed How will I pay m sirIYou will have to But my train will I do about IU dont know sir Well that stumped me The Ameri can hotels have night clerks up at six and before guests have eaten their breakfasts and have taken tho train while here not a soul was up I got out of the fix by going pack up stairs and giving the money to one of my travelling companions on tho steamer and told him to pay It The guard unlocked th j floor and let me out just on my word of having depos ited the money with a man upstalrs The English to not rise for bre fast before or 9 a iIianll this dif ference of git up and gll holds good In most things as between the English and tho Americans As 1 was hurrying to the train a newsboy ran up to mo crying New York on Fire New York on fire New York on Fire How many papers will you have sir I took one hurriedly and when I got settled on the train I looked to see about the great conflagration I looked the whole paper through and saw no mention of New York except the stock quotations The little devil had spotted me for a Yank I realized right away that couldnt play English and bo a John Jacob Astor among them Ann Hathaway- I arrived at Stratford upon Avon at 10 oclock With three others I form ed a party and took a cab at once for Anne Hathaways cottage which Is a mile and a halt out I was shown the path which Shakespeare took when ho went courting Ann and the trees under which they sat She was 25 and he was 18 when they married This is one of my reasons for Ing that Shakespeare wrote tho Ann was ugly and plain and playsI ate and had a bad temper seems unnatural that n man who un derstood the passion of love like ho wrote the plays should be such a sick fool even at the age of 18 While such a selection is not among the Improb 11senseShakespeare has ever been a god of my idolatry Hero was still the peaceful Avon gently flowing among reeds and lilies and along cowslip banks upon which the youthful poacher no doubt oft throw his line Yonder stands the house where he was born and there are the very streets along which he perchance was seen With his satchel And shining morning face creeping Like snail unwillingly to school And hero Is the old grammar school which ho attended first at tho ago oflfive and where ho first saw a enactel and here is the voryUesk at which he studied And hero too Is the church In which tho great bard IsIburled Tho Ann Hathaway Cottago is the quantcst place in tho world I believe To describe it would take a whole page There is her bed and some of the bedding upon which she lay and numerous other old and curious relics There was tho quaintest ohtI fire placo I ever saw It was three feet deep and all tho heat must havo gone up the chimney On either side was an Inglo a spaco cut In thoI rock wall just large enough for a seat You would have to step clear into the gr2 co II under in sit down In the Ingle There was a middle aged lady pres ent and I told her to sit in ono Ingle while I sat In the other awl we would torsI could ploy Ann So wo each tool a place In tho Ingle and I tho lover began sighing like a furnace with n woeful ballad to my mistress eye sighed and sighed till all tho laughingi difference between her age and mine as between Anns and Shakespeares IAround About Stratford From tho cottage I was driven bac to the town and to the quaint o graveyard and to tho church where Shakespeare lies buried The spot is under n flat stone four by eight right In front of the altar The stone Is of and well worn the inscription beln almost obliterated in places The in scription reads Good friend for Jesus sake forbear To dig the dust Inclosed hcare Blest lie ye man who spares these stones lint curst bo he who moves my bones That sounds like tho Great Bard dont it I asked the rector of the church If Shakespeare was the author of that epitaph Ho said No This admission surprised me as the preachers have long referred to this Inscription as evidence that Shakes pare was a Christian Any person of literary Insight can see at once that Shakespeare never wrote such stuff for himself New cement gags have taken tho aboutIe inscription I suppose Throughout th church are battle and naval and sarcophagi of Lords and Dukes on the top of which lie figured like nesses of the same each with their hands clasped In prayer and with sword hanging by their sides The sculptures of course are of two or three centuries ago and look more like Idiots than earls and dukes It looked a little Inconsistent to see so many swords and pikes and breast plates around an altar from which preachers prate of the Prince of PeaceI disgusted with the Insignia of bloodshed and aristocracy and the simple paln slab of Shakespeare gave relief to the scene In a niche In the wall Is a bust of Shakespeare which looks like a Dutch brewer In fact nearly all the pictures of Shake are either chrornos or monstrosities This eoinmorlj Uppraved picture of Shakespeare which of course is only Ideal makes him look like Christ That of course was done for a pur pose If Shakespeare was a Christian what would be more natural than that he would have come out openly and declared the same Instead he makes no profession at all Frequ ently he cusses using such swear words as ByJesu and By St Paul and in other places he puts re ligious words in the mouths of igious characters but never any per sonal testimony He lived In a day when he had to keep still Ho no doubt raw through the Christian myth and while he sold nothing against except to cuss he sail nothing for and because lIe said nothing for is evidence enough that he was against and that he belongs to tho great assembly of Liberal eman cipatorsThe American Window One of tho treat windows of stain ed glass In the church has this in scription under It The rift of the American people out of their great gard for Shakespeare Whnt do you thnk the pictures In this window represent- In the center of the great nanel Is a picture of tho Virgin and the child and on either side nnd al around are pictures of priests and clergymen of the Church of England anti Kings and angels and Shakespeare stand lag In among them looking like a blooming idiot and all with their faces turned toward and piously ador ing tho virgin and the child This Is the gift of The American people Tho fRAts are that it Is a private gift and no doubt a Catholic was on the committee of selection and worked in the virgin and child and priests- I told a number present that I as an American repudiated it and that Shakespeare In that gang looked like he would take three cents for hint self It the American people had made such n present they would have grouped Washington and Franklin and Lincoln anti Edwin Forrest and Edwin Booth and Charlotte Cushman and John Howard Payne and tho like The Grammar School I havent time to tell the half so utist hurriedly skip along Here was where Shakespeare first went to school at the age of five here Is the desk where he sat all cut up with figures and initials but I could not find W S on It Pinning the attendant down to the fact he said it was tho supposed desk The seats are lertI all over the building tho same as in Shakespeares time and it is still us ed as a school You cannot imagine how quaint and odd the buildings of that ancient time There was no saw ed lumber and all tho joists and other wood work were of round lumber and very crooked still they had the knack making straight houses Birthplace From Grammar School I went to the house of his birth This has been remodeled on the outside but loft on the insldo as it was originally Stone floors below great fireplaces crooked joists and beams rough hewn floors above all rn to mnrp up nn In tenor that must be seen to bo appro clafetl Hero a second story room thQ great bard was horntho nobleman of Nature tho Prlnco of hung nation the Knight of Passion the Lord of Reason till Prime Minister of comprehension and the sceptercd God of Thought What are Englands Dukes nnd Earls With their furbelows and curls Tothls master mind of earth Stdbloody gods of men thou mightier than warrior king and priest tnou that touchest all hearts and joycamegmind anti receive tho gratitude and praise of every human heart The Museum a house adjoining the Shakes peare place birth are several large rooms used as a museum Here are gathered every memento In writing picture book sword tool trinket nnd what not identified In any way with Shakespeare There aro a dozen portraits all looking like different individuals and except an idealized portrait all of chromosiJohn the Baptist looked like Rob In gersoll Here aro records and wills galore Here Is everything that has ever been said about Shakespeare The one thing most pointed out Is a letter written to Shakespeare by a man in London asking for a loan of 50 pounds I looked at the address closely and could make out the word Willyshould be I told the lady in at tendance that the letter might be addressed to some other Shakespeare as there was no positive evidence of itt being addressed to Win Shakes peare She didnt like It at all and said that experts had declared that the scrawl stood for William I pined and she got vexed and seeing that she was easily rattled sprung Bacon on her and told her that Shakespeare being a common actor might have given Bacon some points and that Bacon wrote the plays nnd used the name of Shakespeare as a nom de plume it being disreputable at that time to be assocated with the stage Oh my but she got chesty Then a wise looking old gentleman topk it up and I had both of them gaveiand asked them what dlfferenccTT modj whether Bacon or Shakespeare wrote the plays all that intellectual people cared for was the thought and not the personality of either The old gentleman said It was lu dicrous and the woman said It was Idiotic Well then said do me the kindness to convince me by show- Ing me all you have here proving the Identity of Shakespeare The woman became more pleasant and I went around with her and said not a word until h was through Now said you have shown me a lot of old chromos and Bibles and wills and marriage certificates and snuff boxes and candle sticks and dishes and not shown me one single manuscript not one line not one word indlcatlg that Shakespeare wrote tho plays You have absolutely no evidence at all except tho tributes paid by Ben Johnson his contemporary and by Milton who wrote his lit tle verse 16 years after Shakespeare died and Johnson may have address ed him as My dear Shakespeare Just as an American would say My dear Twain when writing to Samuel Clemens or an Englishman My dear George Elliot In writing to Mary Evans You have a lot of trinkets but no manuscripts nothing and the extreme lack of evidence makes It possible that Bacon who was known as a genius was the author Instead of Shakespeare who could neither write nor spell his own name This got them crazy and I rubbed It In some more Finally the old gent leman said Yes there are some poo plo who dont believe jhe Bible oven Thats true said IThe brainiest people in England do notDarwin and Spencer did riot and even Shakes peare did not and no one of ordinary conception does There are 30000 people come here every year and at a shilling 25 ctsl a nice sum Is derived and of course these attendants make their living out of this and will not patiently enter taint any doubts of Shakespeare I took my first meal In England at The Red Horse Inn Stratford and after eating went Warwick Castle seven miles distant This Is the greatest of all English Castles For a shil ling a guide took me through all save the living rooms did not call on the Earl and Countess as my tlmo was precious I hope they will not feel snubbed at my abrupt departure From thero I went over to Kenllworth Castle five miles distant Kenllworth Is in ruins There is a stone hero on which Walter Scott Is said to have sat when he outlined his story of Kenll worth It Is well worn from people sitting upon It I will not attempt to describe these great castles On my way to London from Kenll worth I passed near Windsor Castle It looks big enough for the King to turn around in I did not have time to stop and pay my respects consequently did not get to see Ed Will send him before leaving LondonI THEDEBATE BETWEEN REV WILKINSON AN MYSELF AT RYAN IND TER Has Been Conducted With Pleasure and Profit to Myself and Be lieve with the Same to all Can did and Competent People Who Heard It Whether Infidel or Christian Including Rev Wilkin son Himself Continued from last Blade Another Instance of what I must In sist was tho unfairness of Mr W is as follows Under the second proposition Thero are fundamental errors In the attackingshowingthokinds and among these kinds one variety of discrepancy being that In whch the Bible contradicts in one place what It says in other places I stated to the audience that I would confine this charge of dlsrepancy to Testamentbecauseall than those of the Old Testament dlsrepanclessaid by each of the four gospel writers to have been upon the cross upon which Jesus is said to have been cru cified Certalnnlly there nothing In the whole Bible concerning which we might more naturally and reasonably expect absolute accuracy than that concerning the death of Jesus theI ChristiansSuch Importance and for good reason cited in the New Testament was attached to the very words that were written in the Inscription that the whole Inscription in the King beingitoVfcstance of the kind in tho entire New Testament and yet it is a fact that of the four gospes that tell what that agreeMarksecond gospel was a young man Acts 1539 when Paul was an old man and Paul himself was born too late I Cor 158 even to have seen Jesus and therefore Mark never could havo seen Jesus and must have writ ten his gospel not as an eye witness but from what ho had heard from others Luke plainly says In the first four verses of the first chapter of his gos pel that he wrote that gospel simply from what was commonly reported around him thus by the way re pudiating the common Christian as sertion that the gospels were written by inspiration a claim that no gospel writer makes for himself either direct ly or Inferentlu1IThe gospels attributed to Matthew and John respectively tell that those two men personally saw and heard Jesus and the things reported in them are presumably the personal experlI encies of those two men though neither Matthews nor Johns gospelI states that It was written by the man whose name has been printed at the top of each page of their gospels by no authority other than the fancy of the printers or publishers that anybody knows of and in each of those gospels Its respective writer Is men tloned in the third person as if some unknown party were writing what they are alleged to have said and no names are signed to them while the names of each of thewrltors of the epistles is signed to his writing glv Ing It great prominence by putting the signature In tho beginning and not at the ending as we do In these days and Paul who wrote 14 of the bookst of the New Testament in name to three of his writingS as ho did to all of them the genuineness of the Epistle to tho Hebrews being dls putcd because It does not have Pauls signature I Cor 1021 and Col 418 and 2nd Thessalonians 317 Indica tes that ho deemed Jt of highest tm portanco that all tho writings that were to be guides for the Christians should have attached the names of their writers n statement tho good anyIany elaboration and yet no one of the four gospels has any signature to it Of this inscription on the cross Mark who never could have seen the cross and John who Is represented as having seen It and who appears to have been tho most Intimate with Jesus of all tho disciples agree in saying that the Inscription was writ ten In Greek and Latin and Hebrew Luke 2338 and John 1920 Luko says tho Inscription on the cross was This Is the King of the Jews John says the inscription on the cross was Jesus of Nazareth the King of the do not state that three differ cut things were written In tho three languages Greek and Latin and brew but state plainly that the thtonri Hon onoh rives was written In tho threw languages tho Insert pt on i VM T4Lx1j j InthrceInII stated In malting the argument Christianscontended dogmaof 2 thetheorytheirstatementsDors contend that the truth of the Bi ble was strengthened by thedisrepancy In the statements of Its writers because they say these dis crepancies show there Is no collusion between these writers while they say ters the writers agree In all essential mat 1 IIn answer to what said in tho de under this head and said even more plainly if possible than am saying here because as told 1renhad come with theln parents because + J iiMoorointhetheHirooed to allude to tho fact that he knew that there were four different ver onlythreewritten and that therefore there was certainly one of these Inscriptions the icouldtheory of tho three languages To tho t Jdiscrepanciesmained still a fourth inscription that could not be accounted for by his theory of the three languages ho simply made no allusion evidently as It seemed to me and I think to all who were honestly and competently following his argument because he could not frame any kind of an apology for the fourth Inscription and thought the best that he could do would be not to allude to It and trust to his hope that but few It any would see his evident evasion of a point that was fundamental in the is sue before us But strange to say after he had made the argument that these ac counts of the Inscription on the cross apparentIywere written In three languages he v provethatinscription d not agree only em4 bio by ua ey not write a c u and in exactly the same argument and same con nection and in the same speech Wil kinson proved the Bible true both by the fact that those Inscriptions agreed and that they did not agree and then he bring a lawyer claimed that I the testimony that ho was then ad ducing In favor of the Bible was actly the same that is used in our my indictment of his Bible ho pleaded guilty and not guilty and throw himself upon the mercy of the court by continually ap pealing to the sympathies and prejudices of Christians and broad assertion that all Christians were good and that any wickedness in a pretended Christian only showed that the man was not a Christian while he In the sumo way claimed that all Infidels were bad and that any goodness In a pretended Infidel only showed that theman was not truly an Infidel and he cited my case as being that of a man who though claiming to be an Athlest was not really an Athlest because I was moral man and evidently a gntleman nInwas only the Christianity still inher ent In me front my Christian parents and from my sainted grandfather made this broad claim In the face of my assertion undisputed by him tha the newspapers reported nearly all persons who were hanged for crime as dying in the faith of 1mostAfter Wilkinson would make are joinder like that to one of my argu ments he would fly off Into an ora rhapsody of words and gesticu lotion In which his Immense volco was painfully loud In a large United States Court room and In which tho great burden of his speech was only appropriate for a Methodist camp meeting and In which ho would hort the people to fly from Atheism and Infidelity and conic to Jesus as the only Savior of the worldall of which was wholly Irrelevant In the discussion and from which tho mod I erator did not call him down as I was glad to see for there was nothing In It personal or unkind to mo and simply showed to all Intelligent teners that ho had to occupy his tlmo In that way because there was no ar gument that he knew with which to occupy It Ho seemed to be continually put to It to know how to occupy his time and would ninny times consult his watch with an expression on his face thnt seemed to say 0 for night or Blucher whllo with no time to con suit a watch even If I had had one and refraining from taking a drink of water when I wanted it many times because I did not have the tlmo to spare while speaking as rapidly as I could do to give my audience time to appreciate my points I scarcely over had tlmo to make my arguments In the most condensed form before time Continued on pare four Ii 4I f Tj i 1t H I r MRSIALMKIWILSON OF CINCINNATI CHRISTIAN WIFE OF OUR INFIDEL DOCTOR WRITES ME ANOTHER LE TER Dear Mr Moore You ore like tho dearest Agnostl- atOs know You squirm aroun the strong points that I make and show up my weak ones All right I recognize that you are backing a weak cause Now even myself who have little self esteen thought said a right good thing when I reo market that All Infidels ought to be capitalists from the very nature their mental endowments becaus- they had they think cornered the output of the faculty of reason etc I have heard almost all Infidels whom have met assert In plain unarms rMed language except by some not or namental but abusive expletives that r all Christians were somewhat unbalanced mentally You see put It more mildly than It was expressed to me My dear sir have always been taught to respect older people than myself have been told by many that my dear Christian tauter was the must courteous young man to older people ilvefiyoung alike My father has been dead 40 years and an Infidel yes two Infi dels from his native place have sal to me within the last two years a pity you were not old enough to r know more of your father He was one of the finest men ever knew With that knowledge I always hesi tate to speak sarcastic language t one older than myself and am asham ed when I do It is not Christlike either Nor would I try to argue with one of so much wider experience of hu man kind Even if I could say as witty things or as brainy I fall to ob serve that argument accomplishes any i real good in life There are Just a f few things I do want to say and then whatever you may say to me do not think I shall talk backIYou and Doctor ers who claim to be Freethinkers are no more free to think than am I And again you do great wrong in trying to mislead people whose opinions are unsettled by trumping up a lot of newspaper talk and rehashing It as news about Christians You know and and I know that many masquerade un der that name who disgrace the cause they pretend to follow but they areI not and never have been Christians Dear Mr Moore you will pardon me if I say that I am sure that you were never a Christian though you were a minister of the gospel Although you call meta Christian I do not feel my selfJ worthy of tin rte becauseyIL h i il ily for injury I am e not 8urerive one who did me wrong without as my little girl would say Being sorry about It I and I have faults that you might not call serious faults which as a Chris tian I should have to acknowledge as real faults But I wont make a father confessor of you It might weary both t you and the readers of the Blade do not understand the Realistic School altogether neither do I dwell long on the teachings of infidelity and myheartam like Gladstone In this I know which belief produces the happiest if and best class of people and I am sat isfied to be among the best I like Indicwhom I could admire and respect buts alas even you the friend of Atheism cannot uphold the majority A reale Chri will never use coarse lan ii rtAtheist I cannot say that of a real 1Thereare several items of your reJply I would note In reply to one re mark will only say the Doctor Is not dIto make for It was the old old storIthat we all are interested In ing enacted Love if It has the divine spark In Itand true love hasIs far more to be desired than wealth or brainpower alone But it must not be given or accepted unless it be the love that uplifts and ennobles There will never be need of divorce laws if wo teach our children and de mand of ourselves that another feel 3womanYou must know that I spoke sar castically on the subject of wealth and poverty repeat however that If we Chris Hans have as little mental power as most Infidels allow us we are none of us fitted as they are to acquire our bread and butter had a professed Infidel to tell me You Christians r aint got thinkers of your own you I just do what the preachers say And I must acknowledge that I should rather listen to a cultured preacher or any other scholarly man talk than to waste time talking or being argued at by a man who cant talk without mur dering the Kings English And which ever one listen to reserve the right to pass judgment upon as my own brain guided by conscience says is the truer individual In his conceptions of Right or Wrong Dont Do you know Mr Moore think b you will become a Christian yet and Ill tell you why God never intended a voice like yours to be dedicated to a losing cause I did not like you at all until I heard your voice In con versatlon once I did not even then make It a point to meet you But you remember perhaps that It was cause heard that voice afterward used in defending a good cause or rather heard it proclaiming against a bad cause one which if encouraged will make us less proud of our dear countrythat I congratulated and frankly extended my hand and friendship to you I have many acquain tances nice ones too whom I do not call friends My best Friend you will plcaoe r atict wont ou I cunaot but nhuddcr at the thought of a pleas like yours calling Jcsua Illlullest guy wouldnt call the Infidel know by that you for the good words said inameI half As to the remark about as an Englishman would think In any well regulated family It Is a case of half and halt Im attending to the office nowadays My prescriptions are harmless I think FloTw Gently Sweet Afton and Bonnie Doon wish you would ask somo one t sing for you Ashamed of Jesus as ar forgotdcontralto solo- Sincerely a well wisher to all of the Blade readers If I could do them any good I should wish for time to say good thingsnice things but our paths diverge am sorry it Is so Finis ALMA K WILSON publiseh s answer to your remarks In tho Blade that you publish the first page and the remarks In which allude to my attitude and Gladstone Also about Burns My regards to Mrs Moore Tell her I know she finds much to enjoy so near to Natures Heart for am told that that region In Kentucky or near It abounds In Just the open glades and tangled wlldwood that best like There Is no beauty like that God mado when he made a deep ravine overhanging with vines dang ling from a precipice on either bank P SSlnco writing my letter to you most of which I wrote in ten minutes just after reading your re dply to what wrote for tho other pa per have read your remarks on the depth of Whitney I regret now say Ing some nlco things that I dldal most regret It not quite More than ever believe that tho Lord Is spn- rling your life for some good purpose Or otherwise he would take it after the letter you wrote I fear I say this in all kindness because I grieve over the work to which you have con secrated your pen and that beautiful voice If you have room In paper I pre fer now most of my letter publish ed but wish to see tho proof take back some of the words as to friends but have a feeling of good will even after reading the Whitney comment Omit some of any but not the best points have made- am having a visitor a dear nunt to entertain and have to snatch justi a few moments last night at 11 p m and this a m to finish my letter and cant now read it before mailing Please forgive me If In any way Ij have spoken too plainly or seemed discourteous My head sometimes errsmy heart never A K W Infidels do not claim to havo cor nered the output of reason and If they had done this that would not necessarily have made them all cap talists because there are many people twl o donot thiak that money makin- gliJfsvoaltthlna InifA- I my own seUI esteem a an Infldul propagandist than to havo much more money than haveI not say that all Christians are unbalanced mentally but I would say that they are all unbalanced men tally or deluded by a gross supersti ion or that they are for the money or popularity that is in Christianity think It Is right to respect old people when they try to be respectable One of the leading tenets of the pagan religionist Confucius was spect for old age You do not find In the whole Christian Bible a single stance of respect for old age Jesus Christ did not even talk respectfully to his own mother You probably got your respect for old age from pagan Ism certainly not from Christianity One of the weaknesses of which I have been charged Is my pride In my parents and In my old grand father Stone all Christians the last a preacher I hope you never will bo Christlike Christ said Luke 14 If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and chil ren and brethren and sisters yea his own life also he cannot be disciple The Bible does not lay any store by you women but supposing you toI come under the head man you area disobeying Jesus in your love of your are mistaken In saying that Christ was not sarcastic To call his countrymen a generation of vipers was one of hs pet epithets See Mat 37 and 12 34 and 23 33 and Luke 7 You ought to borrow the Doctors lis Bible and read It some You as a Christian woman havo no right to know anything except what Dr Wil son teaches you Your Bible says 1 Cor 14 25 If they women will learn anything lot them ask their hus t bands at home Your statement that Dr Wilson andt are trying to mislead people is an assumption of tho whole question In Issue You think we are trying to mislead people and think you Cbrls flans arc trying to mislead people and we will have to do like tho Japs and Russians fight It outthe Japs representing the Infidels and the Rus shins representing the Christians believe our side will lick your side Whenever any of you Christian peo pIe are caught in crimes you say they are not Christians Infidels claim e moralists and If used your mode reasoning could say of any Infidel who committed a crime that he was not an Infidel but only a Christian who claimed to be an InfidelsYour saying that I never was a Christian though was a minister ofsthe gospel is an old saying of you Christians that you havo worn threadbare and which you cannot possibly know to be true You dont know anything about what I was when I claimed to be a Christian preacher except what you have read from my own writings pa per or books and of course I did not tell you that I was a hypocrite and a liar There Is ovary reason to suppose I si a Ch blln My narcnta aiu grandparent were Christians as fai back an know anything of them and everybody around me believed InI Christianity If I had taken mono for my preaching as your 11rcachorI does that the laborlIof lying and hypocrisy but not only never tool money for preaching tllpreachover heard of In all your life against whom tiara was absolutely no ground andohypocrite and merely preaching for money Take away all salary from your tor and you will never get any more preach out of him Your pastor preaches for money ex actly as your husband practices mail cine for money and the difference in the honesty of the two inch Is that your husband will tell anybody that he practices medicine for money and your pastor will not confess that he preaches for your money If Dr Wilson the greatest Anion can Infidel would otter your pastor a million dollars he would tako It from Dr Wilson just as soon as he would from you and you and all of us know h would You dont have to make a father confessor of men that may Imow that you have faults The thought of Atheism makes your heart ache have once been a Christian and showed far more zeal for that faith than you havo ever done am an Atheist now and It gives mo that tired feeling to think of ever again becoming n Christian How do you know which belief duces the happiest people unless you have been both As to being any better than my Infidel wife you will never see the day The Pharisee who sounded his trumpet on the corner of the street thanked God that he was better than other people- A real Christian Is no more refined than real Atheists Real Christians often get hung by law You never heard of a real Atheist that did I know the Doctor Is not rich If he were a Christian hypocrite he would be richer The bad grammar you attribute to that Infidel Is common among Chris tians The most lowflung language ever used in public by any man in America was by Sam Jones the most famous preacher in America- A few 1ivs since David M Flournoy sued for a divorce from Sam Jones aughter couldnt stand the breed You say will become a Christian may do so but at nearly 70 years do not yet see any reason why I shouldIt to be common for Christians- to say that Ingersoll would become a Christian but he never did Ho was raised a Presbyterian as you are and his wife and children were devoted to him I never had any one so tq compli ment my voice but anybody that ever hears It at all is pretty apt to hear iidgfpnrtjnKgpruftiityx1 nqvaoBf claiming aga n8tbad one Your best Friend Is your husband have even moro than respect rorI him Seems to me it was quite moderate in me to speak of Jesus Christ as the chief guy of his own religion A wire cable that supports a telephone poe Is a guy I would certainly think a man was complimenting me It he called me the chief guy of American Infidelity Burns wrote songs and played tunes on a fiddle Flow Gently Sweet Afton and Bonnie Doon have for many years been favorites of mine They are Natures music as it came from the heart of the great Infidel poet Burns Ashamed of Jesus Is a silly piece of superstlton that any one so intelligent as yourself ought to bo ashamed- to to the Blade again believe Its readers like to hear from you P SI havo just read your postscript It Is said that a woman generally puts the main part of her totter In a postscript You seem to have written the postscript to express your regret that you had said anything kind about me guess that is your true sentiment s awful hard for a Christian to have kind feeling for an Infidel You nucht to learn something from that Whitney matter Whitney It Is said defied God to strike him deadI and God struck him dead I said that I could not defy God because I do not believe there Is any God and then said that It God wanted to kill anybody to show that there a God he ought In some signal manner to kill me Instead of obscure men like Renfro and Whitney but you see that he did not n me and yet he lately burnt up and drowned on the General Slocum 1031 of your Chris ian people as they were going to worship him You ought to learn rom facts like these that those and bull stories about God strik ing Infidels dead aro all lies and sup erstitionI of course liable to do before you do because I am older than you aro but no God is any more likely to strike me dead for my Atheism than ho Is to strike you dead for your Christianity I have Just traveled with perfect health and safety 2500 miles to de bate with a preacher in which I tended that there Is no God You willI see from a letter to the BIrfde that the Whitney story was all a He told by a drunken Christian to humbug you and all who believe In such non You and tho Doctor must come to us want you to see how an fidel husband and Infidel wife llvo WHY DID NOT DEBATE WITH REV CHISM Lexington Okla Aug 2Cth 1904 Uncle Charley Moore I enclose you herewith propositions from a Campbelllto skybuster Mr ihism for a dicussion at this placo to begin on Sept 5th or Gth This Is a llro on the SinU rnnniinn rNr of about one thousand inhabitants This Includes Carapbcllltes and all they have two churches hero Purcell T will be your railroad point then you only have to cross tho river to bo In Lexington 1 mean the Canadian and not Jordan Infidels are quite numerous In the town and vicinity and the money will bo forthcoming to defray your ox pcnsos and plenty of watermelon on the side So please let us know by next mall If you can or cannot glvo us your ser vices as thero Is one preacher hero who wants to hear the discussion It It Is pulled off otherwise ho wants to go away to hold a meeting so for his benefit please lot me know as early as possible Yours for Freethought and wishing you laurels In coming combat am Very MULLINS The enclosed proposition from ChlHiu tho bad grammar being his Is as follows PROPOSITION Resolved that tho Bible is of divin- origin and teaches a perfect code of morals J W Chism affirm denies PROPOSITION Resolved that the teachings of modern Infidelity Is more In accord with truth furnishes a better code of mar als for life and more consolation In death than Christianity af firms J W Chism denies The two propositions on reverse side of this aro subject to change by mutual agreement but must contain tho gist of their contentsJ CHISM Three days of two sessions each day two hours per session alternat ing at 30 minutes shall be given t each proposition J W C On the second day of our debate gentleman named Adams came to me He had been educated so I was told either by himself or somo other for the ministry of the Christian or Campbclllte church Ho had heard the debate between Mr Wilkinson and me He said to me as we walk ed together back to my hotel If this thing the Christian religion Is not true I want to know It He seemed like a man In doub- though of course could not tell He said to mo that he wanted me to duct a debate with Mr Chism whom know to be a preacher In the Camp belllte church He said that Chism was a more able man than Wilkinson Adams seemed to be an Intelligent and fair man who was anxious to hear the truth He seemed not to regard Wil kinson very highly Upon his assurance that Chlsm was Ii more able man than Wilkinson I agreed with Adams positively to meet Chism In debate at a town named Temple forty miles from where we were The agreement was that we were to debate exactly the same propositions that Wilkinson and I wore debating which were first There Is a God he affirming sec and The Blbe contains fundamental errors I affirming Adams told me that he would at once confer with Chism by telephone and report to mo I tod Adams that I would simply want my traveling ex penses paid He assured mo that this would be gladly done I have never heard from Adams from that day to this that I write September 9th Afterward I got the above proposi tions from Chism I did not accept them for tho follow ing reasons Lexington Okla was a hundred miles away The propositions are not decisive but of an indefinite nature and incapable of discus sion to a final and consluslve issue heard from various parties that Chism was a man of no more force than Wilkinson and I heard from many sources that Chism was a very insulting man Everybody spoke favorably of Wilkinsons deportment and nobody spoko favorably of Chisms The ungrammatical note of Chism showed him to be an uneducated man For a week before began the de hate with Wilkinson I had been on a strain at the St Louis fair and hadI done a great deal of talking to people who wanted to hear me Our place le much further South than Kentucky and its sandy soil makes It much hotter than I am accustomed to andI It was a hot and very dry tlmo even to the people who live there My habits of life aro such that I am onI the farm nearly always asleep by 9I oclock and now for nearly two weeks bad scarcely slept until 12 oclock Bro Sapplnpton a splendid man from Grady who took me by buggy the twenty miles to Ryan had arrang ed for me to stay at a hotel that cost a day the best In the town As we were going into Ryan I saw a hotel for 1 a day and insisted on staving there Tho people wore all good and tho faro and rooms very good for the price but I was necessarily awakened early in the morning and did not get full rations of sloop Wo had Ice water at meals but at other times was without It and I suffered some for our cold water in Kentucky Even the deep well water there was too warm for me to drink from running through the hot Is a grand country and a great and good people In It but It has its drawbacks It was very dusty and you could only walk right In the dusty roads because there is a bur there which sticks you painfully If you walk on any of the wild grass about the town- I could not tako my usual exercise and am getting old The debate with Mr Wilkinson would have lasted a half day or a day longer but was getting so feverish that I could not stand it and there seemed to be no change from the style that Mr Wilkinson had shown and so far from being able to meet Chism was not able to complete the time anticipated In Ryan- I am accustdmed to wearing very little and very thin clothes at my own home and had to wear more clothes at the debate and I suffered It may have been too that Wilkln Ron male It ht for It certain Iy was hot 1 VJNCJIJ5TJRFACTORY Its not sentiment that makes the most successful shots shoot Winchester Factory Loaded Shells Its the re suits they give Its their entire reliability even ness of pattern an I uniform shooting Winchester Leader shells loaded with smokeless powder nre the hest ibels on the marhct Winchester Repeater shells loaded with smokeless powder are cheap in price but not in quality Winchester New Rival black powder shells are the favorite black powder load on the market on account of their shooting and reloading qualties Try either of these brands and youll be well pleased They are THE SHELLS THE CHAMPIONS SHOOT LETeTER have at various times said In the Blade that wanted people to send me newspaper clippings of anything good or bad that preachers or priests or Infidels were doing saying that I Intended to print them in the Dlade It has been several years since I first said this do not remember ever to have re calving a clipping of anything that an Infidel had done that was good unless ll was the case of Miss Eva Ingersoll accosting and stopping a man who was beating his horse and never one telling of an Infidel that had done bad- I have never In all that time received a cllppintr of anything that had been done good by any priest or preacher bunable that had been committed by priests and preachers A majority of these were crimes with woman In that time only a very few in stances of noble acts have been writ ten mo as having been done by dels and the principle ones of those were what others might not call good providtelded because they were hopeless in valids and did not want to be cares to nnlr families Never until this time has nvbody written me to tel of any good that any priest or preacher had done The writer Is priest Martin Mahon ey of Minnesota and the good things that have been done are by priests He seems never to have heard of any good that a Protestant preacher did or would not tell of it It he had heard- It No Protestant preacher would tell of any good thing that he ever heard of a Catholic priest doing The two hate each other like snakes Mahoney giyes two Instances of good things that had been done by priests Onewas the fact that at the Galveston flood which occurred sev oral years ago the priests threw open some houHes I think Iffutilc hosplfalsj and took care of wounded people In Lexington there is what is called a Catholic hospital It was built and Is supported by public taxation dels and Christians Protestant and Catholic paying all In proportion to their property the tax paid in Lex- Ington by Catholics probably being about onetwentieth of that paid by is think solely managed by Catholic women who got good livings there and who do no harder work than man Protestant women who are professional nurses This Catholic hospital Is generally Instanced by people as a sample of the good that the Catholics do and suppose that is just about the same way with the hospital In Galveston Texas where nearly all the people are taxed to support a Catholic hos other case given by Priest honey was In Europe somewhere the place not being given nor the time given and It may have been many years ago for all that I know to the contrary never heard of It before There had been a battle and the priests opened a house that they had for the wounded and when pay was offered them for the house they do dined to take It Mahoney writes me these two cases in answering my request for clippings of good that priests or preachers had doneI could have given Mahoney a bet ter case than any of these but as it happened nearly twenty years ago It Is hardly fresh enough for a newspa per clipping now It Is that of the priest Damlen who exposed his life to live with lepers somewhere in the Sandwltch Islands- A caso worth all of those is tho Atheist Carnegie who gives away for charitable purposes millions of dol lars You may read the newspapers for a year and you will never find a single Instance of any preacher or priest who has dono any good TO ST LOUIS The next Congress of the National Liberal Party will bo held In the city of St Louis on October 22 23 and An International conclave of Free thinkers will be held on the 1518 of October and the three days interven ing between these two meetings will be devoted to the Fair Let all get ready to attend both sessions Fur ther details later- MORRIS SACHS Secretary Blum Texas Aug HiI am especially pleased to note that no more poll tics will be published In the Blade The one thing that would I believe prove of more Interest to Blade read ers than anytning else would be statements of what you do believe Its easy to tell what one does not believe but notso easy to say what we do believe Will you say what you do believe Would love to hear the debate but cant OSCAR A POGUE Aultman Arizona Aug 10 1904 Wo ore Just now setting the rain so t lL t long needed In Arizona and among tho casultles washouts lightning etc The lightning struck a camp of dians paraiyzing some scorching others and frightening the party of Qne squaw who was burned across the breast being very doubtful they sent after tho medicine man and at this writing tae welkin Is ringing with the howls of relatives and the pounding of tom tom a cowhide stretched over a white settlers of this valley with few exceptions aro Christians and object strenuously to the noise and call It silly and I agree with them But If It Is silly for an untu tored savage to howl and pound a tom tom to save his squaw who has been struck by lightning what about the educated Idiot who parades the street in a fantastic uniform and pounds a drum a sheepskin on a hoop to keep mythical souls from going to an Im aginary hell And what about pe titions to a throne of grace to save Garfield and McKinley when shot by assassinsIf who think the untutored savage silly could only seo themselves as a Rationalist sees them what a great change would cone about When I read the Blade and pass it to one of my neighbors it has about the same effect on him as tho light ning had on the Indians Wishing the Blade success I am Yours truly f R HECKLE 125C- incinnati f and Return VIA QUEEN CRESCENT SUNDAYSEPT25 Special Trains Leave Lexington 730 Ask Ticket Agents for Partic ulrs TIS THE COMFORT LINE II tt Tree Reclining IfONHenderson RouteBETWEEN LOUISVILLE EVANSVILLE ST LOUIS WEST AND It SOUTHWESTI Aa we are the of Free Reclining Chair Car Service Between Louisville and St Louis Dont you think It would pay you In traveling to Get the Henderson Rou- teHabitIt will us ASK ABOUT IT +L J IRWIN GEO L GARRETTi Genl PM Aot Tray Pow AltoILr ylu lr r t r 1 J T1 IIII tc HAD TO GO LONG WAY lACK Hopkins Minn Aug 1004 Dear Mr Mooro rat evening opening a packages or notes Intended for the press found the enclosed Intended for the Blade Its timely Interest has got rather too mature of course but not Its truth nnd certification Hut of that too let your office cat Judge I take this chance to say that whlh am panned hy your profane and Infl dol freaks see clearly all the time through them all a character that ex ompllfles and docs honor to the peerless uplifting soulenlarglng Influ once of the Christian religion whose author giveth to all men liberally and upbraldoth not See now if that docs not appear Just right to Mrs Moore to whom mj best regards Yours sincerely MARTIN MAHONEY PRIESTS CAUGHT DOING GOOD The heathen editor of the Blue Grass Blade with a generosity not too common with his professing Christian brethren asks to bo told of It if any priest or preacher should do some thing good Hero Is an Item or two In this line- During the storm In Galveston ac cording to that citys News over persons driven by the storm towards the Jeaulte Fathers church and col lege were bidden welcome there and as section artor section of tim build- Ings succumbed to wind and water were piloted from placo to place sc that not one was lost or even Injured No little part of this good luck was due to the almost superhuman efforts of the Jesuit fathers scholastics and brothers to keep the people quiet and prevent tho panic so imminent at ev cry crashing of the great walls The Jesuits placed the community rooms at the service of the women and chll drcn nnd turned their own private apartments Into hospital wards for tho Injured It Is known that for hours not a morsel of food passed their lips the small amount of food stuffs saved In the storerooms was dealt out to the women and children and the two score of mangled and wounded who needed food perhaps even worse than medicine Thus did those Jesuits emulate the unselfish ness and charity of the Sisters of the Orphan Asylum who divided themselves up among their little charges and failing to save them perished with them It was of such men and women as they went around to minister to the dying and the dead whilst mon sters went around to rob and outrage that the New York Journal correspon dent said Tho moral effect of these men and women In their sombre robes is most striking The ghouls flee and fear such as they do not the armed patrol 1 Apropos here Is this passage from Brinkerhoffs RecollecUons 1Gen the few pleasurable Incl 1 dents I remember of my winter In Bardstown was the generosity or the VJesult Fathers at St Josephs College course the school was closed but faculty 12 or 15 priests with Vnlon at their head remain Tfcg and daily attentions tr TS weiOidTArnIU6iuJ smallpox appeared they ailed for an Instant whilst rotestant clergy disappeared One day I received a telegram to make hospital arrangements for sick and wounded soldiers The on L ly possible way for me to comply with 7 the order was to take possession of St Josephs College buildings Father Verdon at once assented I told him we would need all tho bedding and especially the mattresses and that I would pay him what they were worth or replace them They also agreed to furnish milk from their farm The re suit was that we bad a wellequipped hospital with the constant ministra tions of the Fathers and the Sisters of Charity Later on I requested Father Verdon to present his bill for property taken Ho simply replied We want nothing Ministrations of mercy in times like these should be without money and without price But not all Christians buildings bedding and services has tIre nation got so cheap ly MARTIN MAHONEY Bro Mahoney a Catholic priest Is the only preacher In the world I would give a dam son for and ho did man age to find some good that some priest had done but he had to go a long way back for ItHo ought to scrap around and find something more uptodate Reminds me of Mark Twain when they showed him the mummy said he would rather see a fresh corpse Try again Bro Martin Come to see me My wlfo will get back today from Atlantic City You ought to get you a wlfo being batch Is awful poor living and then you know you wont have any wife in heavenno women there- PRIEST IN THE SAME OLD ROLE Chifaccount beginning as follows PRIEST IN DIVORCE SUIT Father J Ryan Accused by Henry Fogarty Clergyman and tho Wife Both Missing from Chicago Friendship of As sistant Pastor and Choir Singer Not Noticed Until Husband Secures a Letter Fight Follows and Church man Is Sent to HospitalWoman- Said to Have Taken 1200 A bill for absolute divorce filed yes terday In the Superior court by Henry Fogarty named as respondent J A Ryan a Roman Catholic priest The suit followed the disapearance from the city of tire priest and the accused wife Mrs Fogarty after leaving a note to her husband stating It would bo useless to look for her made her de parture on Aug 5 She is said to have taken with her 1200 of her husbands savings Going to a State street department store where Fo garty had an account sire ordered In his name 125 worth of finery such according to the credit man as she would never need In her homo life The husband when ho received her note hurried to the department store where unknown to him and to tho house detectIve Mrs Fogarty was at tho time making further purchase Open work hosiery French heeled slippers rouge gloves ribbons nnd faco powder figured promlnontly In tho purchRlt1s- As she lint often expressed her de slro to go abroad It Is believed tho wife has sailed for Paris Father Hyin after a meeting with tho enraged husband near the rector of tim Holy Cross church Sixty sixt street and Jackson avenue where he hail been nsslstnnt pastor spent soni time In a hospital then hurriedly parted for Ireland It Is suppose Orders from Archbishop Qulgloy It rumored was tire direct cause for his precipitate haste Father Ryan and Mrs Fogarty IIrst met at St Joachims church Nlnotj first street and Langley avenue wirer the priest formerly was assistant pat tor and Mrs Fogarty was a soprano soloist PR WILSONS Article In the Blade About the Bishop Potter Liquor Tavern Is Printed- In Full by a Christian Paper Tho Ottawa Guardian a Christian paper published at Ottowa Kansas prints from the Blade tho full text of Dr WilHOns account of the famous Subway liquor tavern In New York that Ulsh Potter dedicated with re llglous services The hen ting and introduction to tho Gunr jyis publication Is as lows POTTERS TAVERN A Good Description of the Dive by a Correspondent of Cincinnati Potters 5000000 New Church Fourteen Stones In the Building Each of Which Will Cost 25000 Dr J H Wilson of Clnclnatl was In New York last week and ho tool occasion to visit the Subway Tavern lately dedicated by Bishop Potter Dr Wilson Is not a Prohibitionist In his lettor Id the Blue Grass Blade ho says LIVED TOGETHER ONLY FEW WEEKS AFTER MARRIAGE David M Ffournoy Suing His Wife a Daughter of the Rev Sam Jones For Divorce Paduch Sept GDavid M Flournoy a prominent commission broker and oclety man of this city has filed suit for divorce against Mrs Laura Flournoy alleging abandon ment The defendant Is a pretty young dnughror of the Rev Sam Jonoj the evangelist of Cnrtersvllio Ga She and Mr Flournoy met here dur TheylivedThe daupher of Sam Small Sam Jones right bower was divorced from her husband and now Sam Jones soninlaw Is trying to get rid of Sams daughter Looks like being the daughter of n big preacher does not necessarily make a good wife THE BLADE OF SEPTEMBER 11TH I have Just finished reading Friday morning September 9 the Blade narrlnlthemy ideal of tim kind of a paper want to edit believe It Is calculat ed to do more good than any paper now published In the world and that proportion to tho amount of money paid to It it is having ten times as much Influence as any paper that was ever published in the world Tho Income to tine Blade at Its low rates and on tine fine paper that It uses is so small comparatively that Mr Hughes must rely for his living upon the large quantity of work largely pamphlets about the great bus iness Interests of Kentucky many of them holing horse catalogues and sequently though an adept in the management of tine linotype and of the marled fine machinery in his office the made Is generally printed In a rush am so busy at home in domestic matters that frequently do not have time to read over what write and of course make some errors and Mr Hughes rushed In the same way can hardly take time to read over and orrect his proof But hope soon able to eliminate the typographical errors from tire Blade In the mean time hope tIre Blades friends all over America will do their full duty In circulating the paper I believe tho letters of Dr Wilson vlll be intensely Interesting and I am chuckling In my sleeve at tire prospect of getting his talented and estimable Christian wife to write for the Blade against him want Blade readers to hear both sides of the matter and f hope that Mrs Wilsons writings will cause many Christian women to read the Blade As for the debate between Rev Wilkinson and myself think you will find that while ho Is a noble and brave hearted fellow who has the enrage of his convictions and is more honest than those of his profes ion generally are and can defend his cause as well as the very best of them you will find that while in the popular pulpit style of oratory ho may have far excelled me though I do not at all covet that stylewhen It comes to actual argument for the truth of his religion he never made a single point and was routed horse foot and dragon the best he could do being to etreat from point to point as the Christian Russians do from tire Infidel laps I intend to give an extended report or the debate and so give It that all who read It may see Its accuracy and will grant to Grant as they all call him full and free opportunity to irltlclse In this paper anything he nay wish to criticise and to print from his own paper anything ho may rant to say I would greatly have preferred that klr Wilkinson should have produced tome now arguments for his religion If there are nay such because tho old ones that he used are so vapid and threadbare that thoy did not put me von my best mottle to answer them- hopo some day to havo Rev Wll dnson to debate with mo In Lexlng on tho nnno iiiestlons Hint we bated in the Indian Territory ALL A LIE ABOUT WHITNEY BEING STRUCK DEAD FOR DEFYING GOD Wo had some weeks since a great Chicago story about a fellow nnmed Hen fro being struck deaf and dun for defying God It was printed In thousands of papers over tho Unite States Renfro proved to bo a Negro nnlI tine sensation collapsed nnd we will probably mover hear any more of RCL fro Then we had another one nbout Whitney being struck death for dery ing God and It was pretty well pub llshcd but it was so soon after the Renfro exposure that It did not creal much excitement Tho Whitney case was said to have happened at Allen Maryand A friend of tho Blade wrote to Allen Md and got the following plY antI sent to the Blade Allen Md August 1004 C H Dye Conroy Ohio Dear Sir Tho clipping concernln Mr Whitneys death is all untruo We have no person living in our town by such a name The writer from hore has been on a booze for Severn days to la liable to write most any thing Very Respectfully POSTMASTER KENTUCKIAN WANTS TO GO INTO THE FIDEL LECTURE FIELI MrC C Moore Lexington Ky My dear friend CharleyI aID seriously contemplating entering tho lecture field and I would like you advice In the matter as you are mucl older than myself and have a broad er knowledge of the field I would have to work In My lecture would bo of science as opposed to supernaturallsm The way I am now situated I cannot give expression to my convictions and when I do I am styled an Infidel and am satisfied that my business suffers I must either hobble along with the church and pretend to believe It or lose my attitude- have a family to support and of this worlds goods my stock Is limited would have to depend on that for a living Now what is your advice In tins matter have been regenerated by you Yours truly WLC- Of course in general terms wan men women to devote thomselve to the propagandism of our causi when the conditions are favorable but I must be candid enough to say to you that If you are old enough to be a business man and have neve experience or training that specially fits you for Infidel lecturing the chances are not more than one In ten that you could by It make a lIvlor your family I v fit me for Infidel propagandlsm and yet what I have lost by It be a right nice fortune California Penn Aug 19041s- end you ten cents In postage fdr which please send me as many copies of the Blade of July 31 as It will pay or enclose somo verses written my brother You may publish them If you find them acceptable Make It rs warm as possible for Rev Wilkinson and Indian Territory a terror to torles of superstition Sincerely LENA CHAFFEE The verses are good and are as follows THE CONSERVATIVE Ho steals along in battles rear With hair erect eyes wide with fear Ho skulks behind the stones and trees With rattling teeth and trembling knees Ho cries Amen when Falsehood speaks Pays covert court to rogues and sneaks When they posno tho will and power To help disparage or endower 3o stands aloof sees freedom gasp In tyrant militarys grasp Mammons feet ho fawns and creeps But stands unmoved when Mercy weeps On superstitions blighted path Ho gazes neutral without wrath io uses power without ruth He flees tho fight and hates the truth A A KAUTZ Amarllla Texas Sept 14 1904 Permit mo to praise you for tho position you take In regard to the ture policy of the Blade in the article entitled No More In last weeks Issue Give your subscribers a straight fidel paper as there is no grounds beyond that of Infidelity to which hey can advance That is why they ire subscribers for your paper Yours truly H H DRAKE Rothsay Minn Sept 1904En closed nlease find 100 for another ears subscription to tho Blade I have been trying to get subscribers but the people around here seem e too orthodox They are nearly all Christians and some of them darn bad It does beat all how a man with a living thinking brain can lieve such rot as tho Christian re Igloo That being they call the Al mighty God should have to comedown here on earth to suffer and die on a cross between two criminals to save tho people from going to hell and all this was brought about by Ilmself he a wise and all powerful God and yet the old Devil could bring Urn Into such a humiliating position as thatwhy It is too ridiculous to toll to a crazy man Id like to listen to the debate tween you and that Rev Gentleman iVllklnson Ho seems to be a fairly intelligent man Wishing you and tho Blade and all ts readers a long pleasant lIfo I am Yours for liberty O P HANSON jFL r Fjbm Tho Old Time Methodist WOULD HE Lfolowing exquisite hit of Iro Christian at wtnit H Mr Ingorftoll wore to lose hla would ho seek refuge In tho Vn tnt Blind Asylum If Churl BnjjJnugh were to become linear wo d ho bo sent In tho Tom Pnln Incite Asylum If Mr G C Mlln to bo struck with an Incureabl dls tao would he resort to the lion HIf Mlal If arty inncarerl for vlolou chi belonging to a Freethinker wero to found nt large would It bo sent to vin D Dennett Society for the Suniresslon of Vice There are no sucth Institutions No Well bret ron and sisters continue to abus CnHntlanity anti when you or rour frlnjida become blind or lame or slcl or deaf or Insane or IntcmpornU send them to some good Chrlstla Institution They will be taken care of Tree of cost anti no reproaches thqwn In Wio above was enacted In Tit J Methodst and sent me It Is July one of tho ninny claims or umntians that all valuable charltabl public Institutions are built by Christians while it It is a fact that thlfl in hut rarely the caso nearly a1 such institutions being built by public taxation or by Individual subHcrii tlor which Infidels antI Christians alikj contribute taw Infirmary In Louisville wall buia by an Infidel GIrard Colics was built solely by an Infidel The University of Virginia was built byth marmgement of Jefferson an Infidel TIll Smithsonian Institute It Washington was built by an Infidel Tht Sick Observatory was built by an Infidel Carnegie an Infidel has bulU more public charitable Instttu tloiii than any man who ever lived N preacher or religious editor In tine world ever built any charltabli InsHution and yet Christians emit that Christianity has built all the pub Ho rharty institutions Tine first hospitals In the world wen built by Infidel Chinese nUll the flret hospitals In Europe were bull by Infidel Mohammedans Electric ty was discovered by the Infidel Frpiklln and applied by the Infidel the discoverer of print- Ing was denounced by the Christian asn dealer In tine black art mean Ing the devil and from that we hay the printers devil to this day 0operncus Galileo and Magellan greui astronomers wore all Infidels Hume Gibbon Rollns Volney and Draper the greatest historians were all Infidels Shakespeare Byron and Burnesthe greatest poets were al greatest presidents of the United StiitPS were Infidels Darwin Tyndall Hurley arid Spencer the greatest scientists that ever lived were all Infjdiils JIumbolt tire Infidel was tho great esi discoverer anti Ingersoll the In fldkl was the greatest American rikor aKi most admired people now llv itui1i 1ilit ttio iirrtt hated people now living are the Christian Russians lake what Inndellty has done for the world and there Is very tle left- The most prominent Christians now In America are Roosevet Rockefel ler and Sam Jones They are hated by more people than any other three non In America The man who now being abused more titan any one other American by Christians and Infidels alike Is 3Ishop Potter the patron saint of tIller saloons THE PROSPEROUS SOUTHWEST No section of the United States so prosperous as the Southwest The ands are productive and can be purchased at reasonable prices If you want to secure a home or make an Investment In good farm lands In vestigate this section- If you will tell me what you want md the amount you have to Invest will furnish you with lists and prices of lands and valuable Information On September 13 20 anti 27 and on October nnd 18 the Katy will have on sale 15 Excursion Tickets to Texas Indian territory and Okla omit A chance to see the country a small cost Arrange to go Address GEORGE MORTON P T T ST LJiS MO OTTON BELTSIMPROVED SER VICE BETWEEN MEMPHIS AND SOUTHWEST 1500 fO TEXAS AND SACK Train No now leaves Momphls at 745 p m and makes a fast run to Texas It carries Pullman sleepers arlor cafe cars and free reclining chair cars Reaches Texarkana las Ft W tf anti Waco several hours earlier than heretofore Makes meet connections from Paris Bon ham 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burning of Egyptlu She sleeps soundly now anti Ihoi noisy cruel world leaven no frown her lencoflllIIrO nor lips art silent nail ve cannot break tho seal The sweetest nud purest thing that was Liver on thos lips tho maiden brlds klm thnt sire gave tho man sire loved mat charityInthe gown of virtue Site wore Iat gown without spot or blemish am when fate gave e hand of death sire left It for unborn generations A grand antI noble and good woman Is goneFarewell Lyd n M MRS LYDIA E THOMPSON Her life seems to havo been In t he hand of late with fte glnst her She faced lIfe with as great resolution and courage as Napoleon anti his army dill when they marched under the shadov of the great pyramids antI trampei the shiftless burning sands of Egypt She ssleeps soundly now anti the noisy cruel world leaves no frown on her peaceful browner lips are silent and we cannot break tire seal Tho sweetest am purest thing that was ever on those lips was the maiden brides kltu that sire gave the man she loved and mm rled She needs no mantle of charity In death as In life she was robed In the gown of virtue She wore that gown without spot or blemish nnd when fate gave her the hand of death she left it for unborn generations A grand and noble antI good woman Is gone Rarewell Lyd Fertile Valley of the Mississippi While it Is true Oklahoma India Territory and Texas Invite the Home seeker and others In search of a prof- Itable Investment and business petency there Is another field along the Frisco system quite recently opened to those interested In a personal betterment of financial resources On June 1st the line of railroad heretofore known as the St Louis Memphis Southeastern now Frisco System was extended to St Louis thus making a territory in Missouri and Arkansas along the west bank of the Mississippi River accessible by way of St Louis The present service consists of passenger train leaving Union Statioi 710 L m dally for Cape Glrnrdeau Luxora Carruthersvllle and Interme dlate points 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CINCINNATtOtllO fi 1 Ji 1 J l 4 r I J ZACHARY EPISODE AT BANDANA KY AS VIEWED HIS FRIENDS hnvo received n printed circular on the margin of which Is written as Is a reply by tho Christian Campbelllto church to circular sent you a low days ago have been requested by the members to send you this and ask you to publish It also T OGDEN JK The circular with Its heading Is as follows SOME TRUTHFUL STATEMENTS Concerning James W Zacharys duct During Ills Stay In Bandana giYes Brother James W Zachar mado our home his homo while In Dandana from July the 30th until August 22nd 1904 T L PENN MRS T L PENN Concerning tho statements sworn to by Miss Ida Haynes who was as slstant cook from the evening of the r Cth of August to tho evening of tho 24th taking In tho time of last three days of the debate until the close of sleeting that at any time had casion to call James W Zachary down on account of his conduct toward her while In my home Is a malicious He as base as hell Furthermore that tried to scare her Into singing those papers denying this report Is another He born of the devil We did tell her In justice to James W Zachary that she ought to be will Ing to sign papers to the effect that such was a Ho and clear him If he was Innocent to which thing sho read lly agreed asserting positively that It was a lie and she had not told It did draw up the papers and they ore her collatted statements exactly read them to her carefully twice and she fully understood Just what she was doing and the statement sworn to by her that we scared her into It or told her that if she did not sign them she was disgracedruin- od is another malicious lie of her own free will To the contrary we r told her repeatedly that this dirty willful malicious lie was circulated not to Injure her In any way but was circulated with the malicious Intent of trying to ruin the character of James W Zachary by his enemies James W Zachary asked Miss Ida Haynes himself In this language What did you tell this for Her reply was never told It It Is a barefaced MRS T L PENN We do hereby certify that on Sun day afternoon of the 21st day of Au gust we were at the home of Mr and Mrs T L Penn and that Mrs Robert Hahs asked Miss Ida Haynes If she had told anyone that James W i Zachary tried to hug her or made any Jfrt whoever said so told an Infamous He Upon being told that Mrs Maud Slaughter was circulating the report she wanted to go over there right then and make Mrs Slaughter retract and r Mrs Penn said to her No you shall not I do not want a neighborhood r sensation like that and kept her from going She further stated that she had not been In company with Mr Zachary privately while In Mrs Penns home and that he had not said anything ungentlemanly to her In any way MRS INEZ WILLIAMS FLANIKIN- MRS NANNIE HAHS MRS T L PENN MISS CLEDIE NICHOLSON r THOS M PENN k W LEE PENN- T L PENN ROBERT HAllS I do certify that Miss Ida Haynes told me that Mrs Maude Slaughter had lied about this report that she Miss Haynes did not tell Mrs Slaughter any such stuff and that she was going to tell her that It was a black Ho FRANCES SMITH We do hereby certify that we beard Miss Ida Haynes say on different oc caslons that James W Zachary did not make any Improper advances to wards her further that such report was a Ho Also heard Mrs Penn toll her more than once that the re port was not circulated to Injure her but with malicious Intent of ruining tho character of James W Zachary THOS M PENN W LEE PENN T L PENN I do heroby certify that Miss Ida Haynes told me on more than one oc caslon on her own volition and with out one word on my part the clrcu lating rumors and reports concern ing herself and James W Zachary were false as false could be told her the report was calculated to In jinn the man and not her and she re plied as follows YeF but Mrs Triplett It looks awful hard to tell such things on a poor orphan girl MRS M M TRIPLETT We do hereby certify that Mss Ida Haynes told us that she signed those papers denying this report of lui own will Further said she had not made aaany such statements to Mrs Maud t Slaughter or anyone elso to the ef ffect that Mr J W Zachary had at any time made any Improper proposals to her and that such report was a lie without foundation Further said to us that she wanted to go to Mrs Slaughter and make her take It hack and Mrs Penn forbade her saying she did not want a neighborhood fuss MRS GALE CHAPMAN REYNOLDS MRS M R CHAPMAN do hereby certify that stayed In tho home of Mr and Mrs T L Penn 12 days taking In tho time of the en tire discussion and three days be sides and that Mr James W Zach ary conducted himself as an honora iin nltdtn ntn Mioihr niy stay In their hone lowardu HJ riPb IJlui1 J self and all others who camo and went while I was there MSS DIXIE EWEHS Iho above allldavltH were nubscrlb od and sworn to boforo mo by tho above parties this tho 29th day of August 1904 ED UEESOR Notary Public My commission expires Aug 8 1900 Now wo suppose to tho minds or all right thinking people taking In consideration these sworn statement and tho names over which they np pear whose voracity and Integrity no ono dare question as they are not all Campbelllte women but some of whom are members of the Baptls church In good standing and others are nonprofessors besides we car standingIfMRS T L PENN N BIt Is to be understood that Miss Ida Haynes says she Is a memo her of the Baptist church In my debate with Wilkinson hc hail a book called Moore and Inger byZacharycombined I never examined Ittowhich Wilkinson once In a speech al lulled as a book written to damage my character or words to that effect but when went to Ryan tho place of the debate and people Including Wil kinson himself saw me ho publicly expressed surprise that was not at nil tho kind of a man he expected to see that was a fair and nice man mill a gentleman and Wllkerson saw from high appreciation of mo that everybody there Christians and dels male and female expressed that he could not afford to use the Zach ary book and though he had brought It In his largo collection of books to be used In tho debate he never once opened the book during tho discus stun and the people would not have known there was such a book there had I not picked it up and commented upon it for a minute or two saying that I was glad that the book had been written because It indicated from Un fact that in the title of the boor which put my name before that of Iitgersoll that there were two preachers In the church to which I formerly belonged who regarded me as as a greater man than Ingersoll and that therefore tho book would help me as an advertisement Of course Wilkinson knew what was in the book and had brought it with him to expose me but after ho saw me and heard me concluded it would hurt him to try to use the book against me Now the time has come that might retaliate upon Zachary an Infidel was 1200 miles away from home debating against a Chris than preacher and contending that thero was no God I was surrounded by Christians and Infidels alike and they all treated me so kindly that I did not even pretend to know which were Christians and which were In fldels and did not knoiV except in case of a little old List preacher named Steel not Steal who Snapped mo up much like a Steeltrap when approached him in a friendly manner and writhed like he was being tortured when ho heard me telling about the pretty bluo grass the seed of which seemed to have come from Kentucky that I saw grow ing in hell just outside the walls of JerusalemOf DOing so much further away from home In my debate than Zachary was in his debate and haying no fear of God before my eyes to deter me from any wickedness one would more naturally expect that stories told by Christians to my triment and especially stories like this one they are telling about Zach ary would follow me home but you will never hoar any such Of course none of us will ever bo able to get the truth about this caso of Zachary at Bandana In his own State Christians aro swearing under oath against each other and evidently some of them have liedlied under oath We do know that we are continually teeing In tho papers accounts of crimes that are committed by preachers and that prominent among their weaknesses aro their crookedness with women- I do not know that Zachary is guilty as ho has been charged but certainly would not say that ho is not guilty and do know that If anybody from the Indian Territory should now mako any statement saying that was Immoral in any way while was there I would not take the pains to have a circular printed containing tho worn testimony of witnesses that the charges against me were not true would simply assume that my character was such that did not have to defend it against any charge of morality would simply ignore all such just as Ingersoll dillif ho ever heard of ittho charges of Indecency and crime that Zachary and Braden have printed against him- I would say as Ingersoll did that if after having lived to old age my Minrncter was not such that It could withstand such attacks as thoso It was not worth defending- In a newspaper discussion once be tween Zachary and me In which tacked his character because of vile Insinuations ho mode against a dead Infidel girl tho gifted May L Col Hns Zachary thinking that I was camping on his trail and hunting up his record which I was not at all doing forestalled me as he supposed bv printing In the Lexington Leader that whllo ho was a preacher and Pro hibitionist as I now recollect It ho bought the liquor for the men and women in a dance in which he was engaged In a hotel In Junction City ICy a town of about 800 Inhabitants He stated in tho article in the Ington Leader which was written over his own name that he had apol ogized to tho church where he had his membership Shelby City a town on tho outskirts of tho Blue grass region and referred to tho clerk of that church by name as a man who would say that he Zachary had made the nu Pr u iI- wrote to tho reported clerk asking about It and never received any an swcr from him It was In view of this fact and var ious others worse than this that publicly said to Wilkinson In debate Wilkinson being to all appearances nice and mural gentleman that he could not afford to use as an authori ty In his debating library any book written by the man Zachary and my attack upon Zachary and his associate publisher Clark Braden was tbn only thing In tho whole debate that any body seemed to think Improper and tho only person so far as know who objected to that was my own moderator Bro II A Houscr h most excellent and sensible man whose ambition was to havo me conduct my part of the debate absolutely free from any personal attack upon anybody a pretty hard thing to do I do not say that Zachary has been guilty as charged at Bandana Ky I do not know and do not care but this circular and tho ono charging him certainly indicate that in his own State he Is suspected of impropriety with a Christian woman and mispect ed and charged by Christian people THE DEBATE Continued from first page would be called upon mo and I would have close in tho midst of an ar gument Wilkinson in ono Instance ulhlled to his oratory and his wit as be ing Intended to break tho monotony of dry debate If he had divided this compliment to oratory and wit be tween us It would not havo sounded quite so flagrant but he justly antics gated that would have none of it anti so hold his private cinch on all of Unit There were two determinations that made before going Into bate Ono was that I would not en gage In any kind of personality or mud slinging and tho other was that I would not say anything that was not strictly in the line of the ar I abode by the first resolution was abundantly testified to by Mr Wilkinsons own utterances and by the general tenor of the kind words of his wife to me If I broke over the second resolu tlon at all It was only once when my own moderator Mr H A Houser called us both down In pretty caustic terms certainly very much to my own surprise and apparently to that of Mr Wilkinson and tho audience and Wilkinsons moderator said there was in his judgment no justification for the rebuke that we had received Moderator Housers charge was that we had engaged in personalities He did not seem to say that Wilkinson and had been personal In our utter ances toward each other but rather If I understood him that we had been personal In our comments upon ers The charge against Wilkinson seemed to be that ho had attached the character of Ingersoll which I thought he had the right to do In any fair manner and that I had attached Clark Braden a Campbelllto that Wilkinson cited as an authority WH 1118 I 1011 charges of grossest Indecenc and im morality against Ingersoll tlje name of the book being Moore a Inger soil Unmasked anti having a car toon of myself on Its back- I denounced the charges against tho character of Ingersoll as lies that Braden must have mown were lies when he printed them I did not examine tho book at all thoroughly but from what I saw and heard Wilkinson say about It I sup suppose it is the joint product of Bra den and a Campbelllte preacher in Lexington Kentucky named Zachary Zacharys standing or want of stand Ing In Lexington being such that he never did preach or would now be allowed to nrpnch in any one of the LexingtonI Ho had with him n grip which con tained quite a library of books to which he frequently referred I used no book except a Bible a few times and a Concordance to assist me in finding passages In the Bible and I hardly used either of them a halfdoz en times Wilkinson had a book the title of which was Bradens Problem of Problems I had never heard of the book until In connection with this rebate It was written by this Clark Braden who has been associated in religious publication with the man Zachary In Lexington and of course no firstclass man would associate In any literary work with a man of the standing that Zachary Is known to have by many people In Lexington And yet Wilkinson stated that Clark Braden was recognized as an authori ty by every distinguished scientist In America while nil Intelligent people must know that It Is hardly possible that tine name even of Clark Braden is known to any distinguished scien tist In the world and Clark Bradens Problem of Problems would not oven bo cited as authority In any portment of science In a country school taught by a cowpuncher In the same county In tho wild and woolly West In which Braden lives Wil kinson said that Ingersoll had not dared to prosecute Braden for the twenty years that Braden had defied Ingersoll to prosecute him for the charges that Braden had made against Ingcrsoll These charges accuse Ingersoll of all kinds of drunkenness anti dobaiich ery with low women In bad houses among them being tho charge that in ono of thoso houses Ingcrsoll was suspected of having committed a haft and In another one ho was sus- anted of having committed a mur former edition of this same book dm almost certain said that on one occasion when Ingersoll was speaking tb a large crowd ho indecently expos ed his person to tho crowd Tho later edition that Wilkinson had had changed this charge so as to assort that he had been guilty of aI great indecency but does not specify what It was I had seen former edition of the book and had criticised the charge about the exposure of his person and- y no ItI one nf thr charges that said that in a bawdy iR J L f house Ingorsoll had boon struck in faco with a beer mug by a bad wo man and that tho scar had remained there until tho time of that writing In reply to that statement I said in my criticism some years ago that In gersoll had a peculiarly smooth and beardless face and that among nil tho millions of people who had seen him and his pictures nobody would re member ever to have seen tho scar reported to have been made by tho beer mug In tho edition that Wilkinson had printed In 1898 this story Is so chang ed according to my best knowledge and belief that now It reads that the cut by the boor mug was made In Ingcrsolls scalp Instead of his face null cited to Wilkinson that Inger soils scalp was even smoother than his faceslick as a peeled onion I said and that nobody would remem her ever to havo seen any such scar either on Ingersolls head or on any of his pictures and berated Wilkinson for citing such a flagrant liar ns Braden evidently was and It Is for this that understand got my part of tho rebuke of tho moderator who represented me and do not think that served It whatever may havo been true of Wilkerson In reply to Wllkersons statement that Ingersoll had failed to prosecute Brnflen for libel said that a man of Ingersolls standing and associa tions IH probably never heard of Clark Braden an obscuro Campbelllte preacher that Ingersoll could not have afforded to prosecute him If ho had known not only because Ingorsoll could not afford to waive his rank to notice Braden but that there was no reason to believe that Braden had enough money to Justify a man who could command as a lawyer a fifty thousand dollar fee as Ingersoll lint done In bringing any suit against Braden then cited as men who had deem ed Ingersoll of sufficient Importance to debate with him Sir William Glad stone the grandest premier that tho government of England ever hind and Judge Jero Black of the Supreme Court of the United States and Rev Field brother of Judge Field of tho Supreme Court of the United States and brother of Jvrus W Field who laid the first Atlantic cable and that the magazine In which this debate had been conducted was tho North Amer ican Review tho most prominent erary magazine then and now In AmericaA minutes afterward while I was speaking Wilkinson asked mo tho name of that magazine and made a pencil note of it In his memo orandum book showing that he had never before heard of ths by far the most Important debate that had ever In tho annals of the world occurred between an Infidel and a Christian In that debate Gladstone the high est representative of Protestant Chris tianity on earth undertook to belittle and ridicule Ingersoll and Ingersolls reply to Gladstone In which he repre seated Gladstone as riding a hobby Is scarcely if at all less famous as piece of fun and ribaldry than In gersolls nomination of Blaine as a lJlU jl Judge Black a Campbolllto and personal friend of Alexander Camp hell became so abusive that tho North Ainprnnn Review refused to print any more from him and Judge Black soon after died the supposition by many bong that the mortification of his feat by Ingersoll was partly at least the cause of his death The debate between Ingersoll and Rev Field of the Presbyterian church was perfectly pleasant in its nature and Ingersoll and Field complimented each other and were good friends so long as two lived And yet when Wilkinson came to answer 0 ho asked with an air of de lance why Ingersoll had notdebated with preachers Instead of politicians putting men like Gladstone and Black on the footing of ordinary politicians and Ignoring the fact that Field was a preacher with tho most distlngush ed family relations of any preacher that ever lived in America Through all that Wilkinson said un der this head there was an Insinuation that while Ingorsoll might tackle these rank outsiders who did not know shout tho Christian religion ho was too smart to risk his reputation in the hands of such a man as Clark Bra len As another Instance of how Wilkinson temporized and banked upon the ignorance of his audience I give the following I asserted that although there were Rome at the tlmn of the leged career of Jesus Christ In dea which was then a province of Rome the historians upon whose liability has been built the whole of our modern history there was not a historian In tho whole world who supported the story of Jesus Christ In answer to this Wilkinson cited tho famous passage In Josephus and the other almost as famous In the Roman historian Tacitus Tho fact that the little passage from Josephus has so long been recognized by schol ars Christian and Infidel as an Inter polatlon together with the prima facie evidences of its being a fraud is so overwhelming that I think now no preacher of any standing over quotes that passage as being a genlulno ut terance of Josophus though perhaps many Christians claim it ns authentic Rev Wilkinson not seeming at all to a nni the very broad difference between genuineness and authentici ty a difference that Is frequently ac cented in the discussion of history- I r an the argument showing the spurlousness of tho passage that I hnvo known from my boyhood my gument apparently carrying convic tion of its accuracy to all who heard mo and when had thoroughly sus mined my position to my surprise Wilkinson stated Jhat Alexander Campbell said tho passage was sperms and otherwise talked as if he Wilkinson regarded tho passage as spurious so that ho plainly showed that hits purpose had been to palm off on the audience as being geniuno a passage that ho know was spurious trustlni that I would not know enough of the history of tho passage to de teat his design and being compelled tacitly to admit that I had thwarted him in his purpose only when thatI was all that he could do Ho read the passage from Tacitus p IlL W 17 ILLINOIS 11 Tsi RAILROAD AND OTHER POINTS IN THE NORTHWEST SEPTEMBER 15 TO OCTOBER 1904 Through personally conducted excursion sleepers to California Texas New Mexico and Arizona Reduced oneway Colonist and home seekers excursion rates to points South and West first and third Tuesdays In each month FARMING IN THE SOUTH The Passenger Department of the Illinois Central Railroad Company to Issuing monthly circulars concerning fruit growing vegetable gardening stock raising dairying etc In the States of Kentucky West Tennessee Mississippi and Louisiana Every Farmer or Home eeker who will for ward his name and address to the undersigned will be mailed free Clrcu Tars to inclusive and others as they are published from month to on or address nearest railroad Agent or address F W HARLOWDIVISION PASSENGER AGENT LOUISVILLE KENTUCKY EEiIIaij 1iifiiiiii iiLaiiiifi ian 1 t And for him whose acreage is limited because he cultivates a high priced farm There are vast tracts IN THE GREAT SOUTHWEST Within stons throw of farms in highest state of cultivation which aro practically manlcss and can be secured at onefifth to one teoth tho market prlco per acre of an Old State farm Write for Illus trated literature descriptive of Arkansas Indian Territory Oklahoma or Texas VERY LOW ROUND TRIP RATES To any Southwestern point every Tuesday In September and tho 1st and 3rd Tuesdays In October and November GEO H LEE G P A Little Rock Ark McGUIRE P Clnclnatl Ohio LIBERAL UIADQUATIRS WHEN YOU ARE AT THE WuRLDTm At St Louis this year be sure and stop with Mr and Mrs W C Wagener 3111 North Newstead Ave t You will find everything Neat Clean Homelike and WelcomeE as by Liberal Friends Rooms or Rooms and Board at very rea sonable pricesIMr and Mrs Wagener will take groat pleasure In making you ncqualntted with other Liberals who visit the Fair and stop with them or in the vicinity r You will find the editor and publisher of the Blue Grass Blade at Mr Wage nors If we are fortunate enough to visit the Fair DONT FORGET THE ADDRESS but take this paper with you Write them for particulars W C WAGENER 3111 North NewsteadAveJ ST LOUIS MO 1 to show that that historian testified to tho truth of the Christian religion and he In common with tho highest grades of the clergy quoted that pas sage because Tacitus Is lie only his torian of that ago and that country the golden days of the Roman empire who over thought tho Christian relig ion of sufficient Importance to war rant any allusion to it I took tho same history that Wilkinson had used and read the same pas sage calling attention to tho fact that Tacitus denounced Jesus and his dis ciples as Impostors and tho Christian religion as u pernicious supersti answer to my explanation Wil kinson said that Tacitus was proju diced when Tacitus believing In the mythology of tho Romans would have no more reason to be prejudiced as between the religious opinions of Je sus and thoso of tho other Jews than a Christian now in America would have for being prejudiced as between the religion of Mohammed and that of Confucius Anti yet Wilkinson was willing to answer my statement by producing as a witness a prejudic ed historian who plainly testified that Christianity is a pernicious superstition whom Wilkinson introduc od him as a witness to tho truth of Christianity To be continued 4 CHAIR CARS- PULLMAN DINING CARS AND SLEEPERSF ON THE POPULAR HENDERSON ROUTE Vi ST LOUIS THE WESTAND SOUTHWEST If you want to travel on tho Solid Comfort t tILimo Got tho Henderson jRouto Habit Its a ffGood habit to acquire M tRontlngYour tickets L J IRWIN GEO L GARRETT Gen Pass ARt Trav Pans jCgCJ LOUISVILLE 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